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  • myfmyf
    edited November 2012
    I think per-style license is unavoidable: if my default preference is "CC BY" and I want to post a fork or modification of something licensed under "CC BY-SA", I am obligated to keep its license.
  • You can now set per-style licenses.
  • Hello!

    Sorry for lack of communication from us, we found this thread only 2 days ago.

    First of all, getstyles is not public yet, the reason for being indexed by Google was our mistake. That's why we didn't implement any style takedown features before, planned to do it right before going public. Now we have a form that is located at http://getstyles.org/style/request-message (link to this form is also available on the every style's page).

    We never considered copying the styles from userstyles.org a problem since all the styles looked like being GPL/Creative Commons licensed. And we always maintain all style attribution and links back to profiles at userstyles.org.

    Certainly if any author wishes to remove the styles from our site, by any reason, we will do this. Please, use a contact form from above.

    P.S. We are not really related to the guys you've been referring to in this thread, don't know why ipchecking (and apparently Webazilla - our hoster) returned this. So we never received any takedown requests, sorry for that. We contacted them on this matter.
  • See, the thing is, I shouldn't have to go to your site to fill out a f*cking form to protect my rights.

    Theft by apology is still theft.
  • Yeah, you can't just blanket copy everything and then say "hey, if you don't want me to, fill out this form". Authors on this site have specified how they want their styles to be redistributed (or not) and you need to respect that. This means you can only redistribute the styles marked as public domain or CC, and for the CC ones you need to abide by the terms specified.
  • edited December 2012
    P.S. We are not really related to the guys you've been referring to in this thread
    If you're not associated with Victor Sazhin, Linerock Investments, VicMan software, or their affiliates, then who are you, exactly, and why are you using their IP addresses?
  • edited December 2012
    Another thing you GetStyles folks need to be careful about is this - you are violating licenses of various people that are credited in More Info section, since you strip that off in your website. Therefore, you violate any CC-BY (original image creators requiring attribution) of images being used, rendering your copies illegal.

    I also protest against filling a form with a "valid email address" when uso never asked me for one. Why should you have my email address, while Jason doesn't?

    @Jason Barnabe (np)
    Since we hit the copyright talk, I'm pretty sure you won't object but I would like a definitive answer. Do we have permission to use Stylish logo/icon in our styles that we post on your website? :)
  • edited December 2012
    ? What is this blatant statement ? "This site does not respect authors' licenses".
    http://getstyles.org/users?username=Barbiegirl@userstyles
    http://getstyles.org/users?username=ChoGGi@userstyles

    image



    ●Soooooo... getstyles.org for posting (only) userstyles Adult Content Porn? That would take care of that situation for those interested.



    OT
    ●instagram new policy starting jan16 2013. OMG last paragraph.
    http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5328/20121219191859.png


  • Userstyles is an open project and any style you provide is located and stored on userstyles.org rather than on the author's website. All styles were initially implied to be used and modified free of charge, including producing and publishing derivative results under the new names. If Jason considers any style as initially proprietary by default, then all the derivative styles must be removed from userstyles.org, since these styles violate the rights of the author of original style. I would like to emphasize that userstyles.org (as well as any other similar project, including getstyles.org) does not possess any privileges in terms of rights for a style.
    Now, when license info is clearly specified for every style, we by all means comply with all the copyrights fully. However if the license was attached after we got the style's data, the style is considered as legitimately acquired on our side. Besides we can remove the style in case of author's inquiry. Though we are not obliged to do so, we are ready to comply with a request.
    We would like to emphasize that we act in accordance with the law. When a style was issued under "Public Domain" or "Creative-Commons" licenses, it can't suddenly become proprietary. Changing the rights may take place after style's update to a newer version, and this version won't be included in getstyles.org library.

    To hideheader: Ask Webazilla. We are using their IPs, not somebody elses.

    To Ohne Mitleid: We didn't commit theft are we are not apologizing. Referring to CC license, under which, BTW, all your styles are distributed now, copying is not theft. FYI: Once released something under GPL/CC/PD/etc. you can not "take it back", can not prevent copying or redistribution of your works by anybody or by any particular person. You are free to release the next version under different license and it will be not redistributable, though. When you are doing something as CC/GPL/etc., you get lots of benefits: more loyal users, ability to use other GPL-licensed works, etc. But you completely give up right and possibility to prevent somebody of copying your works.

    To grom: Thanks for your note, we are showing all license-related information now.
  • edited December 2012
    retracted. No sense feeding a megalomaniac off the chain.
  • Userstyles is an open project and any style you provide is located and stored on userstyles.org rather than on the author's website. All styles were initially implied to be used and modified free of charge, including producing and publishing derivative results under the new names.
    The posting of the styles implies they can be used freely, but does not imply that they can be redistributed freely. A copyright notice is not required for copyright to be in effect; in fact, the lack of any copyright or licensing information indicates that copyright is effect and no additional rights have been provided.
    If Jason considers any style as initially proprietary by default, then all the derivative styles must be removed from userstyles.org, since these styles violate the rights of the author of original style.
    Every style is under copyright law by default, unless something is posted saying otherwise. On my site, I will take action to remove unauthorized duplicates or derivatives posted by others.

    In your situation, it's you making the unauthorized copies. There's a difference between me saying "I will remove unauthorized copies by others if you point them out to me" and you saying "I've made unauthorized copies, but will stop if each author asks me to".
    Now, when license info is clearly specified for every style, we by all means comply with all the copyrights fully. However if the license was attached after we got the style's data, the style is considered as legitimately acquired on our side. Besides we can remove the style in case of author's inquiry. Though we are not obliged to do so, we are ready to comply with a request.
    We would like to emphasize that we act in accordance with the law. When a style was issued under "Public Domain" or "Creative-Commons" licenses, it can't suddenly become proprietary. Changing the rights may take place after style's update to a newer version, and this version won't be included in getstyles.org library.
    It's true that if a version is posted with a license, this license cannot be revoked on that version of the style. Userstyles.org's UI warns authors about this. However, your assumption that styles without licenses posted permit redistribution is false as I point out above.

    So in short:
    1. Styles posted before authors could specify a license do not permit redistribution, unless noted by the author
    2. Styles posted now without a license do not permit redistribution
    3. The only styles you may redistribute on your site are the public domain ones, the CC ones (when you follow the terms), and those were you have permission from the author
  • edited December 2012
    As an aside, GetStyles, what's this "we" shit? No, no...stepping back. You seem to be the authority on the redefinition of the Universe. If "we" means you and your monkey sock-puppet are ruling your world, so be it. Rock on, sock-monkey!

    I am obviously a little pissed off about this.
  • Well, if there's any cancellation, Ohne, i really like your new avatar. It's exactly how i envisioned you look.
  • So... there is the "Freestyler" extension, which is pretty much the same as "Stylish"... it allows people to use custom CSS stylesheets for specific web site.
    And there is a huge database with stylesheets... copied from userstyles.org ...

    I don't get it. What is it good for ?
    Aren't you just copying something that already exist ?
  • The styles are merely bait. The Freestyler extensions report site URLs to Adlesse.com, for which Getstyles.org is no doubt paid.

    Adlesse's own extensions replace site ads with Adlesse "widgets" that are a bit racist but perhaps no worse. FastestTube was bundled with the Adlesse extension, and now Getstyles.org has eliminated the pretense of ad-blocking entirely.

    Adlesse functions like a super tracking cookie. Unlike a web page, an extension can "see" every web page opened in the browser, and the extension's reporting activity isn't nearly as easily blocked as cookies.

    So, really what you have in Adlesse and now Freestyler is a trojan, a bit of malware that you don't want embedded in an application that you do want. As implemented it's a relatively innocuous trojan, but the Wombat framework used to build the extension can download new code and update the extension with it, without the user agreeing to it or even knowing that it's happened.

    In general you don't want to do your banking on a browser with extensions running, but Adlesse and (Russian) Freestyler are designed for abuse. (The only exception is perhaps Opera, which excludes extensions from https: domains by default.) Sooner or later Getstyles will be in the news, and Userstyles will be right there with it. (Semper fi, Jason.)
  • @makondo
    I think you meant "consolation"
    But if you want me to be canceled, it's cool B-)
  • edited December 2012
    Hehe ... i know i should refrain from using 'big' words!
    Happy New Year, Ohne! image
  • @makondo - Aye, Happy New Year to You, too!

    @hideheader - Please explain. You state 'racist' in a link I do not understand as being racist, and then yet in your comment, you point out Russians (a misnomer since they are no longer Russians).

    I am trying to be new. Happy new your. (intentional, by the way).
  • edited January 2013
    Moscow is the largest city in Russia, Novosibirsk is the third largest.
    http://goo.gl/maps/TNzu6

    The image is a caricature of American rapper Xzibit, host of the MTV series "Pimp My Ride", whose persona was a fusion of the "coon" and "buck" stereotypes drawn from the American black minstrel era and the "pimp" of the Blaxploitation film genre. His nonsensical non sequitur explanations, delivered in "urban" dialect (a sociolect, really), became an Internet meme. Mild by Afrikaner standards, but racist nevertheless.
  • Yes, both domains resolve to the same IP address, and both sites use identical ID numbers for the styles that are not those of Userstyles. I think Jason finally filed a complaint with Google - Getstyles has all but disappeared from the search results - so they probably added a new domain name in order to evade Google's blacklist.

    They're still a commercial company that is distributing documents in violation of their license agreements, and they chose, stupidly, another top-level domain with a US registrar, so US ICE can always seize the domain name, but probably Google will sink Freestyler.ws the same way it sank Getstyles.org.

    It's a slick site, though, isn't it? Much better than their last site. I'm curious how much bandwidth the endless scrolling design uses vis a vis a conventional paged presentation such as Userstyles. I don't see any advertising yet, so presumably they're funding it through the Adlesse widget that's buried in their code.
  • there is no other point in having a website with styles without developers on it rather than making money on ads and private data stolen with "Freestyler" extension
  • http://getstyles.org/ is now parked. Victor's operation has moved to http://freestyler.ws/
  • When the site moved to the new server it got a new IP. I'm guessing the IP was previously used by hbsbarcelona.com.

    Also, when the site moved, I decided not to migrate the blog, because I prefer to post news in the forum.
  • edited March 2014
    And another one... :-w

    http://www.1theme.it/

    Looks like this one tries to camouflage itself as social media app.
  • Not going to let it do whatever it wants to do with my Facebook account, so I press Cancel, which brings me to a Facebook page suggesting I report it. So I did.
  • edited March 2014
    www.1theme.it
    The images are hotlinked from cdn.userstyles.org

    --
    The site steals contents from http://userstyles.org/styles/browse/facebook (via RSS, Atom or JSON).
  • Freestyler is also hosted on css.firefoxfan.com, apparently.

    I also found www.mywebstyler.com who seem to be actively violating licenses.
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