Update about Userstyles new design release

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  • Site is deploying userstyles updates after updating only description, not code, contrary to what the site was doing before the redesing.
  • gonna be blunt bruh and just let ya know how it is:
    first off, you got way too many data mining scripts bloat
    running on your site
    this java junk is killing the net
    it's the biggest threat to security out there
    second, site looks like junk now, literally man
    this plugin/extension is css man why does java need to run
    on your site at all ?

    most folks use this don't do it from a smartphone
    they mod the css further make it their own
    to me, this is literally killing your plugin/extension

    what is happening with your site is what is happening with most of the net
    so you are not unique and tbh, it's our fault not yours

    if people would put the breaks on java and datamining reselling credz etc
    maybe we wouldn't be where we are at today

    i do love your extension and some of the work i've seen on here
    there is some incredible talent, heck i'd call a lot of it art
    the guy who did github dark is just a guru as example

    i take a lot of what i find on here and mod it up

    but yeah man, i'm tired of the damn bloat and java junk runnen all over the net

    many countries talk about security and online safety yet the net is getting geared
    more and more towards compromising stuff, after companies sell our credz, which we
    are at fault for that, that includes myself, after a database is sold couple of times
    who is the third company buying it ?

    i'd like to see a site like yours pull back on this, go back to lean, darken the thing up a bit
    lock it down best ya can and do the best ya can to make it non java
    and if ya need the funds which hey, gotta make money i get it, put up an account we can support you
    with, user driven community

    coz lets face it right, why should someone who works their butt off on a custom css sheet
    come here and get credz mined out when they can build their own site and share it that way ?

    i love your extension and the work from here, i really do
    to me, it puts real freedom back into the net, to be able to view it the way each person wants
    'make it their own'

    two extensions that i think are critical for the net, yours and noscript

    so as it is, as of right now, your site is just another data miner
    you can lawyer it all ya want and tell us xyz but that's like a guy with gold paint
    in a 100 million dollar apartment saying he cares about the guy working on the assembly line
    i won't be using this site like this, tell ya that
    i'll take the css i got the universals and mod them for whatever site i want







  • So... I've had a custom theme/style on ROBLOX for a while now, and I went to change it, but now I can't?? Like, wtf?

    Hi Sushee, Not sure what's the issue you're facing here. Are you trying to reach the edit style page without success? Is it something else? If it's related to a specific support request, the best thing to do would be to email our support through the contact page, and they'll help you with whatever you need.
  • phentrwel said:

    Two things:

    1. Please being back advanced search. Default search will show a lot of outdated and irrelevant results. For the years I've been using Stylish, using the advanced search functions to sort by date updated and weekly installs was the best way to find good skins.

    2. When logging in from the forums, there isn't a proper redirect to the forum topic, which results in the frame being nested inside of the main site. I'm sure this isn't the intended behavior.

    The redesign is very aesthetically pleasing; I hope you can re-implement advanced search and work out the kinks.

    Hi Phentrwel,
    Thanks for your feedback!
    I'll answer about the advanced search in a separate post, since several people here asked about it. I would like your help though to understand how you've reached that error iframe page. Can you list the steps to reproduce - the pages you visited and actions you took?
  • Jefferson said:

    natalieg said:

    Jefferson said:

    natalieg said:


    8. Preview is cropped and doesn't show in original size - since the preview image is bigger than it used to be, we couldn't put the original size since in some cases it looked bad or was blurry. We've added to the style creation page recommended dimensions, and we suggest you follow them to make sure your style is presented in the optimal way.

    The recommended size says "at least" but using larger images is what leads to the cropping. Can you restore a "lightroom" style display so users considering a script can see the full image?
    What do you think about adding back the lightbox effect so that users can see the image in full size.
    Oops, yes, I meant lightbox, not lightroom.
    Sure. I'll add it to our pipeline and try to get it in quickly, since it should be a quick fix.
  • yuusya said:

    Which style also can not be installed.
    The install button does not respond.

    Hi Yuusya,
    Are you reporting a bug with the install button from a style page?
    If so, can you send me the link to that style? Note that if you're trying to install an app style from Chrome, it won't work, since it's not supported by Chrome. We'll be replacing that button with a message to clarify that when visiting these pages from Chrome, very soon.
  • I actually like the new design, a couple bugs notwithstanding.
    Any idea when the screenshot/preview issues are going to be fixed?

    Thanks johnyzero!
    The screenshot issues are legacy one we've inherited and it seems they're not simple to fix since they require a whole rewriting of infrastructure. It's definitely one of the next items on our list. In the meantime, we made sure we've optimized main 'Screenshot Upload' and made it the default option, so that you guys can use that till the other options like 'Automated Screenshots', and 'Additional Screenshots' will be fixed.
  • Your Fired! Jason we want you back. You killed the site, you stylish sucks now. I had to do a tut on Stylus because stylish is not designed for theme creators anymore.

    Your search sucks on finding themes. Type in: Userstyles blue and it finds nothing. If you type in Userstyles midnight it finds Userstyles midnight blue. Just an example that will make it way more harder to find older themes. You removed the image slider. What's the point for uploading 5 other images now.

    The list of problems above this comment. Sending anonymous data to your site is completely wrong. Fix this site or i'm sure one of us will rebuild it the right way and move to that site. Just my input. Don't like it don't care.

    Thanks for reporting the search bug. We're going to check it and make sure this is fixed as soon as possible. Style discovery is a priority for us. I'll answer about the advanced settings question in another post since there are several questions about it here.
  • Props for attempting to give the site a design refresh, overall it ticks the modern look checkbox on the surface but functionally it's a bit of a mess atm even from just my brief impressions.

    - The login opens a frame within the page when logging in via the non-OpenAuth login which loads the entire page again within itself
    - The search results all have non-correct aspect ratios making thumbnails squished
    - Results also no longer have descriptions (or even full titles) to read making deciding on which to check out a huge step backwards
    - The userstyle pages scale smaller screenshots to the full screenshot container making them awfully pixelated (not all screenshots are going to be full page, some only affect a small portion of the site which for many styles was reflected with appropriately cropped screenshots)
    - When Cloudflare.com Javascript isn't enabled clicking the next page doesn't return the next results from the search query but instead the main page (not a big issue but noting for visitors with Javascript disabled initially).

    To be honest it seems like it was designed as a mockup before testing it with existing site content and without realizing the benefits of the old design. At the very least there needs to be an alternate view for search results that carries the previous layout (full rows with left-aligned screenshots and title/description on right) so users can see the screenshots in their correct aspect ratio and read the full title and get a sense of what the userstyles do from the descriptions. 1:1 scaling for screenshots under the max image container size on style pages would also be an improvement.

    Hi Springtime,
    Thanks for your detailed feedback. We're aware of most of them and are already working on fixes.
    Regarding the login<>iframe issue you've found, we've tested many login/reg scenarios and handled all the ones we found. It seems you've found another one and it will help us if you could list the steps to reproduce it.
    Thanks again!
  • Hi All, quick update about outstanding bugs:
    - We've launched a fix to the App and Site Styles categories. We've tested it and it seems to work well now, but it always helps to have more eyes on a functionality, so let us know if you still see issues in these pages

    - I've read your input about the advanced search, but again, the numbers prove that it had very low usage. I'm not arguing about the need to be able to reach the results that advanced search gave us, but maybe there's a better UI for it. For instance, we've added 'Most Popular' and 'Newest' to the side bar and are now working on adding also 'Recently Updated'. What will further help us is if you could say which of the results you've reached through advanced settings you feel are important for a good user experience when it comes to style discovery.

    - Advanced style settings on style pages, as I've mentioned before, is a high priority for us, right after urgent bugs fixes. We'll be uploading this feature back as soon as we can, which shouldn't be long.

    I'd like to share with you our thought process here - from data we've analyzed, the old design was perhaps enough for savvy users, but new users got lost in it, which means your styles didn't get the full exposure they could have. Our main goal was to improve that, while keeping the core functionalities that are valued and needed by the more savvy users. Since this launch was big and included many moving parts, it was inevitable that there will be some bugs and disagreements about changed features. That's why these rounds of feedback are a crucial part of this release and we look at you guys as partners that help us ultimately reach the best result.
  • natalieg said:

    Hi All, quick update about outstanding bugs:
    - We've launched a fix to the App and Site Styles categories. We've tested it and it seems to work well now, but it always helps to have more eyes on a functionality, so let us know if you still see issues in these pages

    Hello natalieg.
    It looks nice, it really does. And it even seems to be working, that's a new thing, something working after the update. Quick thing: new users, people who know nothing about Stylish, Userstyles and all that, they don't see the difference between "App" (what, the word application is so much '90? jeez, mindless drones...) and site. Heck, most of them don't even know you can use Stylish outside of websites. Their knowledge comes mostly from a paragraph on a random tech website or someone's recommendation on reddit. Not much detailed information, much less a tutorial... Basically the categories are pointless.
    natalieg said:

    - I've read your input about the advanced search, but again, the numbers prove that it had very low usage. I'm not arguing about the need to be able to reach the results that advanced search gave us, but maybe there's a better UI for it. For instance, we've added 'Most Popular' and 'Newest' to the side bar and are now working on adding also 'Recently Updated'. What will further help us is if you could say which of the results you've reached through advanced settings you feel are important for a good user experience when it comes to style discovery.

    I'll say it again, your design "by the numbers" is silly. Of course you do have a point, but also it's counter-intuitive not to have a method of sorting styles any way the user wants. Numbers aren't everything, Natalie, sometimes you need to think for yourself. Now tell me, what is better, installing a style that popped up after a search without knowledge if it's still supported and in working order, or having an option to sort the search results by update date or any other way? Not to mention that the search DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY right now. Just go and look for, say gmail: first style is for VK.com, the second one is for Google's Inbox and doesn't work on normal gmail page, third one is a Facebook theme then finally a gmail dark theme that's broken... and every other style for gmail I tested today is broken. Hey, I can fix it myself, but a new user who knows nothing about making a style or changing it would leave frustrated. Your search engine is broken. The lack of advanced search on a website that deals in user created styles that might go out of date at any moment is just stupid and shortsighted. Numbers or no, current website is a counterproductive, broken mess. The basic search doesn't work and I suspect that this is the reason why you don't want to implement advanced search, you simply don't know how to do it. You've broken a perfectly working website and you lack the know-how to get it rolling again, that's the message I got from all of this.
    natalieg said:

    - Advanced style settings on style pages, as I've mentioned before, is a high priority for us, right after urgent bugs fixes. We'll be uploading this feature back as soon as we can, which shouldn't be long.

    Yeah, that would be nice, but... do you know how? Seriously, do you? You've released this broken mess onto the world without bug testing, without vital features... I just don't trust you. I wouldn't trust your team to code a basic HTML website, the type I've done in junior high for shits and giggles, black and white with just text. This shouldn't have happened at all, a launch of a redesigned website broken to that extent is a sign of utter incompetence.
    natalieg said:

    I'd like to share with you our thought process here - from data we've analyzed, the old design was perhaps enough for savvy users, but new users got lost in it, which means your styles didn't get the full exposure they could have. Our main goal was to improve that, while keeping the core functionalities that are valued and needed by the more savvy users. Since this launch was big and included many moving parts, it was inevitable that there will be some bugs and disagreements about changed features. That's why these rounds of feedback are a crucial part of this release and we look at you guys as partners that help us ultimately reach the best result.

    Well, you gave exposure to a bunch of outdated styles, broken search engine that can't find anything except Google, Facebook and YouTube and you've exposed your lack of understanding of your core userbase. What you should do now is roll this back, give us old, working website, put this on a separate, isolated server and gather feedback. Release when it's ready, not when you can't do anything because everything requires a patch! If I were to visit Userstyles for the first time now, I'd be gone faster than you could say "damn". All you have now is a website that looks nice but simply doesn't work, not even the basic search works... Like I've said, it shows your incompetence. And yeah, I'm harsh, because I actually care and you don't seem to. This change was a mistake, it requires much more work, preferably in a controlled environment... Please, please consider going back to previous version, you know, the one that worked. This in unusable, for savvy and not so much savvy users, it's just broken. Style over substance. Too much time spent on UI development, not enough time spent on what's truly important - making sure that the damned thing works.
  • edited May 2017 Chrome
    ^ i agree,recover the old site backup

    and put the new site to beta.userstyles.org until it stable
  • hmm, there exists a (pirate?) site - freestyler.ws, which duplicates the content of userstyles.org. And its design painfully recalls the new appearance of us.o
  • No style options, search options like search on update are gone. So it looks good but it lost all it functionality.
  • hmm, there exists a (pirate?) site - freestyler.ws, which duplicates the content of userstyles.org. And its design painfully recalls the new appearance of us.o

    Huh, and this site better working than userstyles.org
    Have a sorting and working search, Userstyles function broken(
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  • hmm, there exists a (pirate?) site - freestyler.ws, which duplicates the content of userstyles.org. And its design painfully recalls the new appearance of us.o

    Ive asked about that twice on this thread with no answer.
  • The best thing to do is to go back to the old site while corrections are made.
    Styles are losing many users because they become unusable without the advanced settings. We can't wait for this correction, it is needed for yesterday.
  • hippyjake said:

    hmm, there exists a (pirate?) site - freestyler.ws, which duplicates the content of userstyles.org. And its design painfully recalls the new appearance of us.o

    Ive asked about that twice on this thread with no answer.
    That site seems to be targeted to a different extension that still has not had a full review/approval for some reason: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/freestyler/
  • natalieg said:


    - I've read your input about the advanced search, but again, the numbers prove that it had very low usage. I'm not arguing about the need to be able to reach the results that advanced search gave us, but maybe there's a better UI for it. For instance, we've added 'Most Popular' and 'Newest' to the side bar and are now working on adding also 'Recently Updated'. What will further help us is if you could say which of the results you've reached through advanced settings you feel are important for a good user experience when it comes to style discovery.

    Good god natalie you and the current dev team are some god damn idiots.

    1. Just because the numbers are low by your standards does not mean you should take the function of filtering search results away.

    2. Your idea of "advanced search" is not what anyone is wanting at all. Your current implementation just brings up "newest styles" and "popular styles" from the whole site, not of our search results which is what we are all complaining about with this tidbit.

    Here is an example, Search "Youtube" you get styles on the search page for various youtube styles some that haven't even been updated in ages same with the next page and going forth, now how do you expect us users/style creators to filter these results to show the recently updated (or really any of the other options from the "advanced search") styles for just "YouTube". Oh wait you can't because you took "advanced search" away. Clicking on "most popular" or "newest styles" (and tbh more than likely your "recently updated" as well once you get that implemented) doesn't show it only for "Youtube" or whatever your search result is for, it just goes oh you want to see the newest styles or the most popular styles for everything out there.

    Here is an idea, sell the site/extension to someone who is way more competent and know a lot more about this extension/site than you do and who would take it in the direction it needs to go, as currently you guys are killing the site/extension little by little every single day.
  • Jefferson said:

    hippyjake said:

    hmm, there exists a (pirate?) site - freestyler.ws, which duplicates the content of userstyles.org. And its design painfully recalls the new appearance of us.o

    Ive asked about that twice on this thread with no answer.
    That site seems to be targeted to a different extension that still has not had a full review/approval for some reason: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/freestyler/
    You can still install styles from that site if using stylish/stylus you don't have to use their extension at all.
  • If I update just description, not code, on my styles, in my style list there's a warning for each one of the updated ones saying there's a missing screenshot, which seems not be the case.

    @JourneyOver It doesn't host app styles.
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  • strel said:

    If I update just description, not code, on my styles, in my style list there's a warning for each one of the updated ones saying there's a missing screenshot, which seems not be the case.

    @JourneyOver It doesn't host app styles.

    The first thing is because screenshot stuff is broken I think like 90% of the site, all we can do is wait for a fix.


    and if you're talking about freestyler.ws they do have app styles on their site, but like 99% of their content on the site is just stolen stuff from here.
  • @JourneyOver I only see Site and Global styles but no App type ones.
  • strel said:

    @JourneyOver I only see Site and Global styles but no App type ones.

    that's because freestyler doesn't officially have a quick one click way to search for app styles, you have to do manual searches. Like I said 99% of the stuff that is hosted on that site is stolen from here, so if you find a style from here (app or otherwise) it's most likely on freestyler as well.
  • edited May 2017 Maxthon
    natalieg said:

    yuusya said:

    Are you reporting a bug with the install button from a style page?
    If so, can you send me the link to that style? Note that if you're trying to install an app style from Chrome, it won't work, since it's not supported by Chrome. We'll be replacing that button with a message to clarify that when visiting these pages from Chrome, very soon.

    Thank you for your reply.
    Yes, I am reporting a problem with the install button on the style page.
    For example, I can not install the style of this page. (It is the same symptom in other page style)
    Https://userstyles.org/styles/129810/google-theme-changer

    Even if you press the "Install Style" button, it is unresponsive.
    I do not receive a message.
    Stylish of extension is in my browser, but has it become impossible to use with Maxthon browser?
    Before becoming New Design, it was possible to use it without problems.
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  • natalieg said:

    Hi Springtime,
    Thanks for your detailed feedback. We're aware of most of them and are already working on fixes.
    Regarding the login<>iframe issue you've found, we've tested many login/reg scenarios and handled all the ones we found. It seems you've found another one and it will help us if you could list the steps to reproduce it.
    Thanks again!

    Originally the frame-in-frame login was encountered after clicking 'Sign in' from the Userstyles.org forum and clicking the 'User name/password' button on the linked login page. However it appears this no longer produces the same result.

    It may have been initially that Javascript was disabled for the domain on my end (using NoScript), but since it now appears the site won't even display at all with Javascript disabled I guess that's one rather blunt way of working around any script-related issues, though it's a pity it has to resort to that as the former site only required it for the Install button on style pages.
  • yuusya said:


    Stylish of extension is in my browser, but has it become impossible to use with Maxthon browser?

    It's a rather old version now... http://extension.maxthon.com/detail/index.php?view_id=1711 (Feb. 2015)

    Does Maxthon have an error console (web console, browser console, etc.) where you might see any error messages posted when you click the Install button? Maybe it would be a good idea to start a new thread for Maxthon since this one already has reached 4 pages.
  • Jefferson said:


    It's a rather old version now... http://extension.maxthon.com/detail/index.php?view_id=1711 (Feb. 2015)

    Does Maxthon have an error console (web console, browser console, etc.) where you might see any error messages posted when you click the Install button? Maybe it would be a good idea to start a new thread for Maxthon since this one already has reached 4 pages.

    Oh, it was caused by the old extension.I see.
    The new "Stylish for Maxthon" does not exist.
    So I give up.
    I was glad that I understood the cause. Thank you for your response.
  • yuusya said:


    Oh, it was caused by the old extension.I see.
    The new "Stylish for Maxthon" does not exist.
    So I give up.
    I was glad that I understood the cause. Thank you for your response.

    I don't know if you should give up yet. This site is going through a lot of changes. Check back next week to see whether it has improved.
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